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Post by title17 on Jun 15, 2018 9:26:25 GMT -8
Here we go...draft is in a week. Buckle up!:
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Kawhi
Jun 15, 2018 9:48:23 GMT -8
Post by Laker8LA24 on Jun 15, 2018 9:48:23 GMT -8
Here we go bitches! I just went from six to midnight.
So who are we giving up for Kawhi since it is starting to become real? I think SA asks for Ingram. I wish we didn't have to give up Ingram.
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Kawhi
Jun 15, 2018 9:56:20 GMT -8
Post by title17 on Jun 15, 2018 9:56:20 GMT -8
Here we go bitches! I just went from six to midnight. So who are we giving up for Kawhi since it is starting to become real? I think SA asks for Ingram. I wish we didn't have to give up Ingram. I just can't believe Pop gives us Kawhi. Woj says LA...the Clippers have the 12 and 13th pick in the draft. They can maybe package some guys like Tobias Harris. In the end, Kawhi has to refuse to re-sign with all non-Laker teams. Lonzo, Kuzma, Deng, the 25th pick and the 2020 pick likely is something that works.
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Kawhi
Jun 15, 2018 10:08:47 GMT -8
Post by Laker8LA24 on Jun 15, 2018 10:08:47 GMT -8
Here we go bitches! I just went from six to midnight. So who are we giving up for Kawhi since it is starting to become real? I think SA asks for Ingram. I wish we didn't have to give up Ingram. I just can't believe Pop gives us Kawhi. Woj says LA...the Clippers have the 12 and 13th pick in the draft. They can maybe package some guys like Tobias Harris. In the end, Kawhi has to refuse to re-sign with all non-Laker teams. Lonzo, Kuzma, Deng, the 25th pick and the 2020 pick likely is something that works. And I would cringe at that deal, but do it. Ultimately, I think Ingram is the superstar in the making. Ball is going to be great, but not as good as Ingram, IMO. I love Kuzma, but I could part with him to get Kawhi. I'm hoping we could work something out that's a little bit less than this, since technically Kawhi is a 1-yr. rental. Kawhi can control this narrative by refusing to re-sign with anyone but the Lakers, and I get the feeling he will. And if we get him, you can bet your ass that LeBron is coming, and probably Paul George too. That is a championship level team overnight.
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Post by title17 on Jun 15, 2018 10:09:57 GMT -8
More Woj:
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Kawhi
Jun 15, 2018 10:10:57 GMT -8
Post by sclakersfan on Jun 15, 2018 10:10:57 GMT -8
Yeah....it doesn't matter if Kawhi wants to go to the Lakers specifically. The Spurs will take the best package offered from anybody BESIDES the Lakers (the Paul George scenario). Hopes are high, expectations are very low that this actually happens this offseason. Best option for Kawhi remains free agency next year....just like PG. Exact same scenario, unfortunately.
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Kawhi
Jun 15, 2018 10:16:16 GMT -8
Post by Laker8LA24 on Jun 15, 2018 10:16:16 GMT -8
Yeah....it doesn't matter if Kawhi wants to go to the Lakers specifically. The Spurs will take the best package offered from anybody BESIDES the Lakers (the Paul George scenario). Hopes are high, expectations are very low that this actually happens this offseason. Best option for Kawhi remains free agency next year....just like PG. Exact same scenario, unfortunately. This one feels different. The Lakers are in a position to be an overnight contender, and Kawhi can choose to come to LA and play for the contending Lakers (rather than the rebuilding Clippers) by refusing to re-sign with any team not named the Lakers. George did not take that hard stance, but Kawhi could.
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Kawhi
Jun 15, 2018 10:22:07 GMT -8
Post by title17 on Jun 15, 2018 10:22:07 GMT -8
Yeah....it doesn't matter if Kawhi wants to go to the Lakers specifically. The Spurs will take the best package offered from anybody BESIDES the Lakers (the Paul George scenario). Hopes are high, expectations are very low that this actually happens this offseason. Best option for Kawhi remains free agency next year....just like PG. Exact same scenario, unfortunately. This one feels different. The Lakers are in a position to be an overnight contender, and Kawhi can choose to come to LA and play for the contending Lakers (rather than the rebuilding Clippers) by refusing to re-sign with any team not named the Lakers. George did not take that hard stance, but Kawhi could. Pop can also see what the Lakers are doing and just say 'F it' and wait til the Feb trade deadline instead. By then, we'll have had to make several decisions on Deng/Randle and waiting may keep us from Lebron and PG13. That way we still do the trade but are not a superteam that these precious few upcoming weeks can birth.
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Post by Laker8LA24 on Jun 15, 2018 10:26:14 GMT -8
This one feels different. The Lakers are in a position to be an overnight contender, and Kawhi can choose to come to LA and play for the contending Lakers (rather than the rebuilding Clippers) by refusing to re-sign with any team not named the Lakers. George did not take that hard stance, but Kawhi could. Pop can also see what the Lakers are doing and just say 'F it' and wait til the Feb trade deadline instead. By then, we'll have had to make several decisions on Deng/Randle and waiting may keep us from Lebron and PG13. That way we still do the trade but are not a superteam that these precious few upcoming weeks can birth. I think Pop would be foolish to wait until the trade deadline. Kawhi could be toxic and do what he did last season, and just sit it out. His value would diminish further. The time to trade him is now. The Lakers have the best young assets to offer, and they are motivated to make a trade. I think this gets done. And I think LeBron and Kawhi are talking right now. Kawhi is going to put on a hard stance that he will NOT resign with anyone but the Lakers. The timing is perfect here, IMO.
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Post by title17 on Jun 15, 2018 10:46:01 GMT -8
Pop can also see what the Lakers are doing and just say 'F it' and wait til the Feb trade deadline instead. By then, we'll have had to make several decisions on Deng/Randle and waiting may keep us from Lebron and PG13. That way we still do the trade but are not a superteam that these precious few upcoming weeks can birth. I think Pop would be foolish to wait until the trade deadline. Kawhi could be toxic and do what he did last season, and just sit it out. His value would diminish further. The time to trade him is now. The Lakers have the best young assets to offer, and they are motivated to make a trade. I think this gets done. And I think LeBron and Kawhi are talking right now. Kawhi is going to put on a hard stance that he will NOT resign with anyone but the Lakers. The timing is perfect here, IMO. Another question mark is his health. I've read that he's at 85% now. Will that improve? I am a Laker diehard and have to disagree on assets being offered. Ainge and Philly can trump us but I don't think they will. Saric/Fultz/10th pick is a solid offer, for instance. Give Pop a skilled Euro, last year's # 1 (he's not broken, as much as we want to believe) and another lottery pick? And Kawhi goes East. Pop would consider. Tatum definitely moves the needle too. Ainge tends to want to win trades, though, so that'll do him in. Jaylen Brown, Marcus Morris, the Kings 2019 pick and filler ain't gonna cut it. Again, it's up to Kawhi to steer the conversation and scare away East teams.
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Kawhi
Jun 15, 2018 11:05:02 GMT -8
Post by title17 on Jun 15, 2018 11:05:02 GMT -8
Woj taking the wind out of our sails:
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Post by Laker8LA24 on Jun 15, 2018 11:59:58 GMT -8
How is Brandon Ingram not a better deal than anything Boston would be willing to trade for a 1 yr rental? Unless they're willing to part with Tatum, which I seriously doubt, then we have the best young player to offer in the deal and the Lakers would do it because they know Kawhi would re-sign. The key is Kawhi doesn't want to go to Boston. He wants to go to LA. The Clippers don't have the pieces or the promise of a contender, and so the best spot is the Lakers. For San Antonio, if they know they're losing Kawhi, they're best move is to take the BEST DEAL, and that is the Lakers.
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Post by Lonzo'sBallMagic'sJohnson on Jun 15, 2018 12:22:03 GMT -8
Woj taking the wind out of our sails: Yeah, Woj isn't including the info that we offered Clarkson and Randle for George, not Ingram. Plus, Ingram has increased his value and we have Kuz and Hart as assets now.
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Post by Laker8LA24 on Jun 15, 2018 12:29:42 GMT -8
Amen. The Lakers would be willing to give up more assets than Boston. I feel good about this.
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Kawhi
Jun 15, 2018 12:38:41 GMT -8
Post by Lonzo'sBallMagic'sJohnson on Jun 15, 2018 12:38:41 GMT -8
Amen. The Lakers would be willing to give up more assets than Boston. I feel good about this. Boston definitely has more assets but if Kawhi does not indicate he would re-sign then I doubt they would be willing to give them up. Boston has Tatum and the Kings and Grizzlies(two terrible teams) first round picks next year.
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