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Post by Laker8LA24 on Jun 1, 2018 10:45:22 GMT -8
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Post by lakers4life on Jun 1, 2018 15:32:02 GMT -8
I would sell my soul for some Kawhi. What can we give the Spurs to take him off theyre hands?
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Post by sclakersfan on Jun 1, 2018 16:54:02 GMT -8
This is Paul George all over again. Now PG has reached free agency and can "come home" with no obstacles AND get paid. Yet, I keep hearing 50/50 odds he comes to the Lakers. OKC is definitely still in the picture, and Houston has him as a fallback plan to LeBron. Bottom line in my mind is to strike while the iron is hot. There are no guarantees. If we can sign two max stud free agents this year (from the pool of LBJ, PG13 and Boogie - if healthy), do it. Too risky to play the waiting game in the NBA. Having said that, no need to spend just for the sake of spending. There is wisdom to the "sign one max player, a bunch of one year contract players, and go for Kawhi or Klay next season" school of thought. Boogie is real gamble, but only because of the achilles. I have no worries about his character flaws.
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Post by lakers4life on Jun 1, 2018 19:15:00 GMT -8
This is Paul George all over again. Now PG has reached free agency and can "come home" with no obstacles AND get paid. Yet, I keep hearing 50/50 odds he comes to the Lakers. OKC is definitely still in the picture, and Houston has him as a fallback plan to LeBron. Bottom line in my mind is to strike while the iron is hot. There are no guarantees. If we can sign two max stud free agents this year (from the pool of LBJ, PG13 and Boogie - if healthy), do it. Too risky to play the waiting game in the NBA. Having said that, no need to spend just for the sake of spending. There is wisdom to the "sign one max player, a bunch of one year contract players, and go for Kawhi or Klay next season" school of thought. Boogie is real gamble, but only because of the achilles. I have no worries about his character flaws. You have no worries about boogies character flaws? I sure do.
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Post by sclakersfan on Jun 2, 2018 1:32:22 GMT -8
No, I really don't. I think they've been overblown. You'd be pissed too if you had to play in Sacramento He had no issues with the Pelicans, his teammates have always loved playing with him, and as for this Lakers team, we could use somebody with some fight in him (some attitude). Our young team is good, but a bit laid back (aside from Randle and Hart, who can get pretty fired up at times).
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Post by Laker8LA24 on Jun 2, 2018 7:46:31 GMT -8
No, I really don't. I think they've been overblown. You'd be pissed too if you had to play in Sacramento He had no issues with the Pelicans, his teammates have always loved playing with him, and as for this Lakers team, we could use somebody with some fight in him (some attitude). Our young team is good, but a bit laid back (aside from Randle and Hart, who can get pretty fired up at times). I agree with this sentiment. Boogie was a model citizen in New Orleans and his teammates love him. My concern is his injury. A torn Achilles is a bitch of an injury and it generally takes away your expressiveness. Look what it did to Kobe. Boogie is not necessarily an explosive type player but he still needs to be able to move quickly laterally, jump for rebounds and blocking shots, and run the court. A repaired Achilles will affect him in those areas. How much remains to be seen. He is much younger than Kobe was, so maybe the recovery will be a little bit easier for Cousins, but the Lakers would be gambling on their future if they threw the max at him. I'm leery of doing that. I'd prefer to just resign Randle and grab George. Save some cap space for Kawhi next season. If we don't get him, there are others to go after such as Klay Thompson.
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Post by sclakersfan on Jun 2, 2018 8:46:18 GMT -8
No, I really don't. I think they've been overblown. You'd be pissed too if you had to play in Sacramento He had no issues with the Pelicans, his teammates have always loved playing with him, and as for this Lakers team, we could use somebody with some fight in him (some attitude). Our young team is good, but a bit laid back (aside from Randle and Hart, who can get pretty fired up at times). I agree with this sentiment. Boogie was a model citizen in New Orleans and his teammates love him. My concern is his injury. A torn Achilles is a bitch of an injury and it generally takes away your expressiveness. Look what it did to Kobe. Boogie is not necessarily an explosive type player but he still needs to be able to move quickly laterally, jump for rebounds and blocking shots, and run the court. A repaired Achilles will affect him in those areas. How much remains to be seen. He is much younger than Kobe was, so maybe the recovery will be a little bit easier for Cousins, but the Lakers would be gambling on their future if they threw the max at him. I'm leery of doing that. I'd prefer to just resign Randle and grab George. Save some cap space for Kawhi next season. If we don't get him, there are others to go after such as Klay Thompson. I would not be cool with the Lakers offering Boogie a max contract. But, with our cap space, we could sign PG13, re-sign Randle and offer Boogie a one year Prove It deal, with the understanding that we sign him long term if he plays well/recovers from the injury. If he would accept that, there is no risk. If we have a shot at Kawhi in 2019, we can cut bait with Boogie if he does not fully recover, or re-sign him for less than the max if he wants to stay aboard. I doubt he would do that, but if he wants to come to L.A. and (hopefully) play with Paul George and the rest of our core, it could work. But, Dallas will be throwing money at him, as will New Orleans. So it's an unlikely scenario at best.
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Post by Laker8LA24 on Jun 5, 2018 12:46:20 GMT -8
I agree with this sentiment. Boogie was a model citizen in New Orleans and his teammates love him. My concern is his injury. A torn Achilles is a bitch of an injury and it generally takes away your expressiveness. Look what it did to Kobe. Boogie is not necessarily an explosive type player but he still needs to be able to move quickly laterally, jump for rebounds and blocking shots, and run the court. A repaired Achilles will affect him in those areas. How much remains to be seen. He is much younger than Kobe was, so maybe the recovery will be a little bit easier for Cousins, but the Lakers would be gambling on their future if they threw the max at him. I'm leery of doing that. I'd prefer to just resign Randle and grab George. Save some cap space for Kawhi next season. If we don't get him, there are others to go after such as Klay Thompson. I would not be cool with the Lakers offering Boogie a max contract. But, with our cap space, we could sign PG13, re-sign Randle and offer Boogie a one year Prove It deal, with the understanding that we sign him long term if he plays well/recovers from the injury. If he would accept that, there is no risk. If we have a shot at Kawhi in 2019, we can cut bait with Boogie if he does not fully recover, or re-sign him for less than the max if he wants to stay aboard. I doubt he would do that, but if he wants to come to L.A. and (hopefully) play with Paul George and the rest of our core, it could work. But, Dallas will be throwing money at him, as will New Orleans. So it's an unlikely scenario at best. If we don't offer Boogie a max, then he's not coming. Simple as that. There is no way another team won't offer him the max, IMO. I am still hoping for a 2018 Paul George signing and a 2019 Kawhi signing. That would be ideal, IMO. If we could trade Deng's albatross contract, then we could even retain Brook Lopez or Isaiah Thomas on another short deal.
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Post by lakers4life on Jun 5, 2018 14:52:15 GMT -8
Fuck Boogie. Kawhi first, Lebron second, George third choice. Anyone else is just fillers.
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Post by Laker8LA24 on Jun 5, 2018 18:42:02 GMT -8
Fuck Boogie. Kawhi first, Lebron second, George third choice. Anyone else is just fillers. It's a matter of who's willing to come. I wouldn't dismiss Boogie if he's the only one willing to come. We do need a center and he's very talented, but is he healthy? Don't know. But I'd take a chance on him if the others fell through.
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Post by lakers4life on Jun 6, 2018 11:40:50 GMT -8
Just bcuz boigies willing to come doesnt mean i want his ass.
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Post by title17 on Jun 7, 2018 15:53:32 GMT -8
I'll say this: if Paul George leaves for LA, it'll give other teams pause who want to trade for Kawhi. They'll remember that OKC gambled on PG13 and lost.
If we land Boogie this summer, it means we struck out on everything else and have no shot at Kawhi in 2019. Worst case, I'd give Boogie a large one year deal.
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Post by Laker8LA24 on Jun 8, 2018 7:03:01 GMT -8
I'll say this: if Paul George leaves for LA, it'll give other teams pause who want to trade for Kawhi. They'll remember that OKC gambled on PG13 and lost. If we land Boogie this summer, it means we struck out on everything else and have no shot at Kawhi in 2019. Worst case, I'd give Boogie a large one year deal. Yeah I would too. But Boogie's not going to take a one year deal. Another team will definitely offer him a multiple year deal, which is fine. I'll say this- I wouldn't be mad if the Lakers struck out on George/LeBron and decided to give Boogie a long term deal slightly under the max. As long as they leave enough money to be able to re-sign Randle this offseason and offer Kawhi the max next season. We could buy low on Boogie and with Kawhi they could be a contender.
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Post by title17 on Jun 8, 2018 10:02:25 GMT -8
I'll say this: if Paul George leaves for LA, it'll give other teams pause who want to trade for Kawhi. They'll remember that OKC gambled on PG13 and lost. If we land Boogie this summer, it means we struck out on everything else and have no shot at Kawhi in 2019. Worst case, I'd give Boogie a large one year deal. Yeah I would too. But Boogie's not going to take a one year deal. Another team will definitely offer him a multiple year deal, which is fine. I'll say this- I wouldn't be mad if the Lakers struck out on George/LeBron and decided to give Boogie a long term deal slightly under the max. As long as they leave enough money to be able to re-sign Randle this offseason and offer Kawhi the max next season. We could buy low on Boogie and with Kawhi they could be a contender. I'm OK with that too, I guess...as long as the money works for Kawhi. Been reading today that the Celtics are worried Kyrie may bail for the Knicks in 2019. He reportedly had an interest in the Lakers before Lebron came back. Something to consider, should Lebron not come. Can't pass up on a top 10 player who has eyes on other cities.
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Post by Laker8LA24 on Jun 8, 2018 11:47:43 GMT -8
Yeah I would too. But Boogie's not going to take a one year deal. Another team will definitely offer him a multiple year deal, which is fine. I'll say this- I wouldn't be mad if the Lakers struck out on George/LeBron and decided to give Boogie a long term deal slightly under the max. As long as they leave enough money to be able to re-sign Randle this offseason and offer Kawhi the max next season. We could buy low on Boogie and with Kawhi they could be a contender. I'm OK with that too, I guess...as long as the money works for Kawhi. Been reading today that the Celtics are worried Kyrie may bail for the Knicks in 2019. He reportedly had an interest in the Lakers before Lebron came back. Something to consider, should Lebron not come. Can't pass up on a top 10 player who has eyes on other cities. Kyrie? I love Kyrie, but would he be willing to give up ball handling duties to Ball? 2 guard? It could work if he is willing.
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