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Post by sclakersfan on Jun 15, 2018 2:43:47 GMT -8
The Hawks are open to using their cap space to absorb a bad contract in return for either young assets or a first-round draft pick, according to Michael Scotto of the Athletic.
The Hawks hiring Lloyd Pierce made it even more clear that they were headed for a lengthy rebuild, so they could certainly benefit this offseason with so many teams over the cap. Expect a lot of youth in Atlanta for the rest of this decade.
Source: The Athletic Jun 14 - 5:49 PM >>>>>>>>>>> Deng and Zubac....nah. Deng and 2019 1st rounder, top 10 protected? Maybe?!?
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Post by Laker8LA24 on Jun 15, 2018 9:44:21 GMT -8
This is a god send! Give him Deng and a future first and it doesn't even need to be top 10 protected. If we're signing two maxes and retaining Randle, then we know we're a playoff team and our draft picks will be later first round picks. Give him the pick and call it a day!
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Post by sclakersfan on Jun 15, 2018 10:18:48 GMT -8
This year's pick would actually work better for us (I think) in terms of cap room for the "dream scenario". We could see a COMPLETELY different roster next season. Then again.....we could see virtually the same one. This offseason, though, I would be absolutely BENT if we struck out on everybody. Could happen, though....and I am getting mentally prepared for it. I know Magic and Pelinka will do their very best. All you can ask, I suppose.
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Post by Laker8LA24 on Jun 15, 2018 10:22:25 GMT -8
This year's pick would actually work better for us (I think) in terms of cap room for the "dream scenario". We could see a COMPLETELY different roster next season. Then again.....we could see virtually the same one. This offseason, though, I would be absolutely BENT if we struck out on everybody. Could happen, though....and I am getting mentally prepared for it. I know Magic and Pelinka will do their very best. All you can ask, I suppose. Things are really starting to play out in our favor. With the Kawhi news, I am sure Kawhi and LeBron and maybe even George are speaking right now and figuring a way to engineer a super team in LA. The Lakers are the only team capable of making this happen and it's two of the three's dream to play for the Lakers. I feel like it's going to happen this time. And the more I think about, the more I say give the Spurs almost anything they want. Just get Kawhi here and make it all happen.
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Post by lakers4life on Jun 15, 2018 14:38:31 GMT -8
You know they are speaking and they probably set this plan in motion awhile back. Lebron is probably directing Leonard on how to facilitate this trade.
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Post by domino247 on Jun 20, 2018 8:25:09 GMT -8
You know they are speaking and they probably set this plan in motion awhile back. Lebron is probably directing Leonard on how to facilitate this trade. So who we giving up then? Kawhi is my #1 fav player my dudes.
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Post by Laker8LA24 on Jun 20, 2018 10:09:37 GMT -8
You know they are speaking and they probably set this plan in motion awhile back. Lebron is probably directing Leonard on how to facilitate this trade. So who we giving up then? Kawhi is my #1 fav player my dudes. I'm not sure what Magic and Pelinka will give up, but for me it's Kuzma and parts (no Ingram, no Ball). Anything more is troublesome.
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Post by title17 on Jun 20, 2018 10:59:20 GMT -8
So who we giving up then? Kawhi is my #1 fav player my dudes. I'm not sure what Magic and Pelinka will give up, but for me it's Kuzma and parts (no Ingram, no Ball). Anything more is troublesome. It'll be Ingram if it happens, I think. I know Pop likes Kuzma but he wasn't a top 2 pick. That still holds value in that he represents a whole losing season. Kuzma is more like found money. Pop will want it to sting.
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Post by Laker8LA24 on Jun 20, 2018 11:14:47 GMT -8
Pop can go S a D.
Pop is going to retire in a year anyhow, especially with Kawhi leaving, so it's really RC Buford we're dealing with here. And I know RC really liked Kuzma in last year's draft. Kuzma and Hart and 2 picks stings, but Ingram and Kuzma is pure rape. Too much!
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Post by lakers4life on Jun 21, 2018 7:44:28 GMT -8
Pop can go S a D. Pop is going to retire in a year anyhow, especially with Kawhi leaving, so it's really RC Buford we're dealing with here. And I know RC really liked Kuzma in last year's draft. Kuzma and Hart and 2 picks stings, but Ingram and Kuzma is pure rape. Too much! That's just not going to get it done homie. I am positive that they are going to want Kuzma and Ingram, so we might have to oblige.
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Post by Laker8LA24 on Jun 21, 2018 9:27:12 GMT -8
Pop can go S a D. Pop is going to retire in a year anyhow, especially with Kawhi leaving, so it's really RC Buford we're dealing with here. And I know RC really liked Kuzma in last year's draft. Kuzma and Hart and 2 picks stings, but Ingram and Kuzma is pure rape. Too much! That's just not going to get it done homie. I am positive that they are going to want Kuzma and Ingram, so we might have to oblige. We'll see. I don't think the Spurs are going to be blown away by any other team's offers. Kawhi is simply a rental (if you go by what his people are saying). BI is simply the best young asset their going to see offered, and that should be enough to get the deal done. If I'm the Lakers I play hard ball and dangle Kuzma and parts. If we keep Ingram, we will not only be a superteam but when LeBron leaves Ingram should be ready to be the new superstar.
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Post by title17 on Jun 21, 2018 10:05:25 GMT -8
That's just not going to get it done homie. I am positive that they are going to want Kuzma and Ingram, so we might have to oblige. We'll see. I don't think the Spurs are going to be blown away by any other team's offers. Kawhi is simply a rental (if you go by what his people are saying). BI is simply the best young asset their going to see offered, and that should be enough to get the deal done. If I'm the Lakers I play hard ball and dangle Kuzma and parts. If we keep Ingram, we will not only be a superteam but when LeBron leaves Ingram should be ready to be the new superstar. I think the first offer will be 'choose EITHER Ingram or Kuzma' + parts. I hope we keep Ingram. That would mean monster length with PG, Kawhi and LBJ on the floor with him and Ball. Add Lonzo's D and that's the makings of a sick defensive squad with 'positionless' mobility. For the record: I don't think Ingram is a future superstar. He disappears. Which is fine. Fringe All star on a winner is fine by me.
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Post by Laker8LA24 on Jun 21, 2018 12:35:15 GMT -8
We'll see. I don't think the Spurs are going to be blown away by any other team's offers. Kawhi is simply a rental (if you go by what his people are saying). BI is simply the best young asset their going to see offered, and that should be enough to get the deal done. If I'm the Lakers I play hard ball and dangle Kuzma and parts. If we keep Ingram, we will not only be a superteam but when LeBron leaves Ingram should be ready to be the new superstar. I think the first offer will be 'choose EITHER Ingram or Kuzma' + parts. I hope we keep Ingram. That would mean monster length with PG, Kawhi and LBJ on the floor with him and Ball. Add Lonzo's D and that's the makings of a sick defensive squad with 'positionless' mobility. For the record: I don't think Ingram is a future superstar. He disappears. Which is fine. Fringe All star on a winner is fine by me. Yeah I know I keep trying to convince you on Ingram, but you aren't seeing the light. I've haven't been this sure on a Laker since Kobe Bean. He's going to be a star.....I would really hate to give up on him so early in his career, but Kawhi is only 6 years older than him and is by far the better player right now, and if it nets us LeBron too then I can live with that.
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Post by title17 on Jun 21, 2018 13:29:43 GMT -8
I think the first offer will be 'choose EITHER Ingram or Kuzma' + parts. I hope we keep Ingram. That would mean monster length with PG, Kawhi and LBJ on the floor with him and Ball. Add Lonzo's D and that's the makings of a sick defensive squad with 'positionless' mobility. For the record: I don't think Ingram is a future superstar. He disappears. Which is fine. Fringe All star on a winner is fine by me. Yeah I know I keep trying to convince you on Ingram, but you aren't seeing the light. I've haven't been this sure on a Laker since Kobe Bean. He's going to be a star.....I would really hate to give up on him so early in his career, but Kawhi is only 6 years older than him and is by far the better player right now, and if it nets us LeBron too then I can live with that. Ben Simmons is a future superstar. Donovan Mitchell. Jayson Tatum. You tend to know pretty early. But hey, I'm a Laker lifer. I hope I'm wrong.
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Post by Laker8LA24 on Jun 21, 2018 14:15:36 GMT -8
Yeah I know I keep trying to convince you on Ingram, but you aren't seeing the light. I've haven't been this sure on a Laker since Kobe Bean. He's going to be a star.....I would really hate to give up on him so early in his career, but Kawhi is only 6 years older than him and is by far the better player right now, and if it nets us LeBron too then I can live with that. Ben Simmons is a future superstar. Donovan Mitchell. Jayson Tatum. You tend to know pretty early. But hey, I'm a Laker lifer. I hope I'm wrong. Ben Simmons and Donovan Mitchell are a little bit unfair comparisons because they are older than Ingram. Ingram and Tatum are the same age, and if you look at the statistics this season side-by-side, Ingram was better in most categories. So if you're considering Tatum to be a lock superstar, than you should also consider Ingram to be, IMO.
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