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Post by Laker8LA24 on Jun 11, 2018 14:45:36 GMT -8
Let's say LeBron says "I'll come to L.A. Magic, but only if you can sign CP3 and trade for Kawhi."
If you're Magic (or Pelinka) where do you draw the line on what you'd give for Kawhi to make this threesome happen?
Would you trade Ingram straight up?
Would you trade Ball and Kuzma?
Would you give up Ball and Ingram?
Would you give up Ball, Ingram, and Kuzma?
Where do you draw the line?
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Post by Lonzo'sBallMagic'sJohnson on Jun 11, 2018 19:25:25 GMT -8
Why CP3 though?
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Post by sclakersfan on Jun 12, 2018 3:09:20 GMT -8
Yeah, that part really sucks. Everything I have read is that LBJ wants to team up with CP3 wherever he goes (which is why Houston is even being talked about, even though they don't have the cap space). If I were Magic & Pelinka, I would try to explain to LeBron that CP3 is not in our plans, but George is (as is Kawhi, if the Spurs will talk with us) -- but if the Lakers REALLY want LBJ, they may be forced to try to sign CP3 also. I am not the biggest fan of Lonzo, but we already have a point guard....much younger and less expensive than CP3. As for trading for Kawhi, I have said in other posts, it will take the majority of our young core (probably 2 or 3 of our most promising) plus draft picks to even get into that conversation. Better to wait for his free agency next year, assuming he doesn't sign that Supermax contract the Spurs are offering him right now which will render any and all "Kawhi to the Lakers" talk moot. CP3 in his prime would have been the shit, but the league vetoed that. Now, it would be more like the Nash experiment. A Hall of Fame point guard, past his prime, starting to experience injury problems, etc. The only difference is that we wouldn't have to trade for CP3. My bottom line is that I hope we don't sacrifice all the strides we have been making through the draft and player development to bring in the "banana boat crew". Honestly, I wouldn't want to be in Magic or Pelinka's position right now. They don't have the leverage....LBJ does. I would be perfectly fine signing George, drafting another quality player or two and moving on with it.
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Post by domino247 on Jun 12, 2018 7:04:33 GMT -8
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Post by Laker8LA24 on Jun 12, 2018 7:34:34 GMT -8
Believe me, I want nothing to do with CP3. Not a fan. I have just read a few articles that suggest that LeBron wants to build a superteam with CP3 and Kawhi. Since Magic would basically have to appease LeBron and trade for Kawhi, the Spurs would ask for the farm. What is your limit? I would give them Ball and Kuzma. And that would be my limit.
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Post by lakers4life on Jun 21, 2018 7:48:25 GMT -8
I'd give them Ingram and Kuzma because why the heck not? Leonard is the second best two way player in the NBA and it would most likely mean that we get James and George too. So do it.
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Post by Laker8LA24 on Jun 21, 2018 9:23:58 GMT -8
If you're not worried about 5-10 years down the road and you simply want to win RIGHT NOW, then yeah you make that deal. If you're trying for sustained success then you have to recognize that trading Kuzma and Ingram to get Kawhi means that you are also giving up on Randle (no money to pay him if you're signing LeBron and George too). LeBron is getting up there, and George is 30. In 3-4 years, you'll have an aging George, LeBron will probably be gone, and then you'll have Ball, Hart, and Kawhi left from the core....probably not championship material anymore and a rebuild will be in order.
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Post by title17 on Jun 21, 2018 10:15:00 GMT -8
If you're not worried about 5-10 years down the road and you simply want to win RIGHT NOW, then yeah you make that deal. If you're trying for sustained success then you have to recognize that trading Kuzma and Ingram to get Kawhi means that you are also giving up on Randle (no money to pay him if you're signing LeBron and George too). LeBron is getting up there, and George is 30. In 3-4 years, you'll have an aging George, LeBron will probably be gone, and then you'll have Ball, Hart, and Kawhi left from the core....probably not championship material anymore and a rebuild will be in order. All signs point to CP3 staying in Houston, thankfully. Lebron and PG13 need to speak to one another after July 1, especially if Kawhi is on board already. And PG13 just turned 28 in May. He still has prime years left. CP3 for 4 more years is brutal.
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Post by Laker8LA24 on Jun 21, 2018 12:31:17 GMT -8
If you're not worried about 5-10 years down the road and you simply want to win RIGHT NOW, then yeah you make that deal. If you're trying for sustained success then you have to recognize that trading Kuzma and Ingram to get Kawhi means that you are also giving up on Randle (no money to pay him if you're signing LeBron and George too). LeBron is getting up there, and George is 30. In 3-4 years, you'll have an aging George, LeBron will probably be gone, and then you'll have Ball, Hart, and Kawhi left from the core....probably not championship material anymore and a rebuild will be in order. All signs point to CP3 staying in Houston, thankfully. Lebron and PG13 need to speak to one another after July 1, especially if Kawhi is on board already. And PG13 just turned 28 in May. He still has prime years left. CP3 for 4 more years is brutal. My mistake on Paul George, he's only 28 so the back end of his deal won't be that bad at all. Glad to hear that CP3 is not going to be coming here. That seriously makes my day. LeBron and George (and Kawhi even) should already be talking. There is nothing stopping players from having conversations, it's not against the rules. If they are plotting to come together, then it will be real easy for the Lakers to make this happen. At worst, we should walk away with LBJ and George which is quite the offseason.
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