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Post by sclakersfan on Jun 21, 2018 18:18:54 GMT -8
Wagner would have been there in the 2nd round. I have to question this pick, but he must have impressed at his workout. Particularly with Robert Williams and Mitchell Robinson still on the board. Head scratcher to me....
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Post by Lonzo'sBallMagic'sJohnson on Jun 21, 2018 18:27:55 GMT -8
Wagner would have been there in the 2nd round. I have to question this pick, but he must have impressed at his workout. Particularly with Robert Williams and Mitchell Robinson still on the board. Head scratcher to me.... I guess they must have really liked him. I'm happy even though I didn't get the guy at the top of my list. It could have been a lot worse.
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Post by Laker8LA24 on Jun 21, 2018 18:34:59 GMT -8
We got my boy Mo Wagner. Don't sleep on this guy. In the tournament he was nails and carried Michigan. Perfect stretch four or five.
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Post by Lonzo'sBallMagic'sJohnson on Jun 21, 2018 18:43:49 GMT -8
Philly made a great move getting Miami's '21 first round pick to move down and get Smith.
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Post by Lonzo'sBallMagic'sJohnson on Jun 21, 2018 18:49:15 GMT -8
Fuck, Atlanta got Spellman. Rugged defender who is good on the glass and is a legit shooter.
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Post by Lonzo'sBallMagic'sJohnson on Jun 21, 2018 19:15:41 GMT -8
Isaac fucking Bonga?!
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Post by Laker8LA24 on Jun 21, 2018 19:20:31 GMT -8
Yeah another Euro stash. Why did the lakers trade up for that?
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Post by Lonzo'sBallMagic'sJohnson on Jun 21, 2018 19:34:50 GMT -8
Why does nobody want Keita Bates-Diop? Why did we pass on that guy for a guy that can only shoot? ughhh... Unimpressed with the second round. Bonga is high upside but I'm not entirely sure why they wanted to take the chance on him.
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Post by sclakersfan on Jun 22, 2018 2:23:59 GMT -8
I am completely unimpressed by most everything the Lakers did in the draft. Ski was OK at 47.....you know my feelings about Wagner. Signing Malik Newman after the draft was a great move....same with Joel Berry. Front Office really threw me for a loop in this draft. I hope they got it right again....but on the surface, they shit the bed....messily!
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Post by Lonzo'sBallMagic'sJohnson on Jun 22, 2018 2:57:08 GMT -8
I am completely unimpressed by most everything the Lakers did in the draft. Ski was OK at 47.....you know my feelings about Wagner. Signing Malik Newman after the draft was a great move....same with Joel Berry. Front Office really threw me for a loop in this draft. I hope they got it right again....but on the surface, they shit the bed....messily! Wagner was their guy and he was almost definitely going to be gone by 39. He's a great fit for the team offensively. Shoots well from 3, attacks closeouts well, sets good screens, excels in the pick and pop, runs the floor and excels in transition. All the things Luke likes to do on offense. He should be a great fit with Lonzo. Can even face up/post up with some nice moves in the half court. There are some concerns about his rebounding and interior presence but he could improve there. He does not have a big build but he has an athletic build and looks like he could add to his frame a bit. He needs to improve boxing out. Needs to find a body and battle when a shot goes up instead of crashing the rim too much. Hopefully he improves there. Another thing is he has a great attitude, hustles and works hard which played a big part in the front office swooning for him.
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Post by Laker8LA24 on Jun 22, 2018 5:33:54 GMT -8
I am thrilled with Mo. After watching the NCAA tournament I had visions of Wagner playing with the Lakers as a stretch 4. The thing that stood out the most about him is how clutch he was and how crafty he was with the ball for a big. He's a modern day big that can shoot, run the floor, and switch out defensively if needed. I like the fit.
Now, the second rounders got me scratching my head. Especially at 39. Granted, I've never heard of this guy, but looking at videos and profiles of this guy afterwards didn't excite me one bit. He can't shoot and he's not coming over to the states anytime soon. Why did we trade up for that? And the Kansas guy who's name I can't pronounce or spell is your average run of the mill spot up shooter. I watched him play and he never stood out at all. Just a guy.
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Post by title17 on Jun 22, 2018 8:26:12 GMT -8
I am thrilled with Mo. After watching the NCAA tournament I had visions of Wagner playing with the Lakers as a stretch 4. The thing that stood out the most about him is how clutch he was and how crafty he was with the ball for a big. He's a modern day big that can shoot, run the floor, and switch out defensively if needed. I like the fit. Now, the second rounders got me scratching my head. Especially at 39. Granted, I've never heard of this guy, but looking at videos and profiles of this guy afterwards didn't excite me one bit. He can't shoot and he's not coming over to the states anytime soon. Why did we trade up for that? And the Kansas guy who's name I can't pronounce or spell is your average run of the mill spot up shooter. I watched him play and he never stood out at all. Just a guy. One gets the impression that they nabbed the 39 pick in the hopes that a few people would fall to them (Brunson maybe?). It didn't work out so they picked who was next on their list. They also probably wanted second rounders so they won't have cap holds on those guys. I'm down with Wagner as a hoops IQ 'glue' guy but, in general, last night felt like every pick was their 3rd or 4th choice. No one really 'fell' to them (Robert Williams perhaps is the outlier here - TBD). I'm hesitant to complain, though, because last year's draft was a downright home run (a grand slam if Lonzo improves tremendously).
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Post by Laker8LA24 on Jun 22, 2018 9:56:15 GMT -8
I am thrilled with Mo. After watching the NCAA tournament I had visions of Wagner playing with the Lakers as a stretch 4. The thing that stood out the most about him is how clutch he was and how crafty he was with the ball for a big. He's a modern day big that can shoot, run the floor, and switch out defensively if needed. I like the fit. Now, the second rounders got me scratching my head. Especially at 39. Granted, I've never heard of this guy, but looking at videos and profiles of this guy afterwards didn't excite me one bit. He can't shoot and he's not coming over to the states anytime soon. Why did we trade up for that? And the Kansas guy who's name I can't pronounce or spell is your average run of the mill spot up shooter. I watched him play and he never stood out at all. Just a guy. One gets the impression that they nabbed the 39 pick in the hopes that a few people would fall to them (Brunson maybe?). It didn't work out so they picked who was next on their list. They also probably wanted second rounders so they won't have cap holds on those guys. I'm down with Wagner as a hoops IQ 'glue' guy but, in general, last night felt like every pick was their 3rd or 4th choice. No one really 'fell' to them (Robert Williams perhaps is the outlier here - TBD). I'm hesitant to complain, though, because last year's draft was a downright home run (a grand slam if Lonzo improves tremendously). Second rounders are great for cap purposes, but that doesn't mean you can't draft guys that can produce now for this team. There were a ton of good potential role players there when they took Bonga. Bonga is a 6'9 PG with a terrible shot and played limited minutes in three different leagues. Perhaps he's a long term project, but F that noise. We're about to use our cap space and become a perennial playoff team, we don't need any more projects.
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Post by title17 on Jun 22, 2018 10:01:01 GMT -8
One gets the impression that they nabbed the 39 pick in the hopes that a few people would fall to them (Brunson maybe?). It didn't work out so they picked who was next on their list. They also probably wanted second rounders so they won't have cap holds on those guys. I'm down with Wagner as a hoops IQ 'glue' guy but, in general, last night felt like every pick was their 3rd or 4th choice. No one really 'fell' to them (Robert Williams perhaps is the outlier here - TBD). I'm hesitant to complain, though, because last year's draft was a downright home run (a grand slam if Lonzo improves tremendously). Second rounders are great for cap purposes, but that doesn't mean you can't draft guys that can produce now for this team. There were a ton of good potential role players there when they took Bonga. Bonga is a 6'9 PG with a terrible shot and played limited minutes in three different leagues. Perhaps he's a long term project, but F that noise. We're about to use our cap space and become a perennial playoff team, we don't need any more projects. Agreed. What has worked for them recently late in drafts is finding mature college junior/seniors. They shouldn't have gone away from that.
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Post by Laker8LA24 on Jun 22, 2018 10:04:08 GMT -8
Second rounders are great for cap purposes, but that doesn't mean you can't draft guys that can produce now for this team. There were a ton of good potential role players there when they took Bonga. Bonga is a 6'9 PG with a terrible shot and played limited minutes in three different leagues. Perhaps he's a long term project, but F that noise. We're about to use our cap space and become a perennial playoff team, we don't need any more projects. Agreed. What has worked for them recently late in drafts is finding mature college junior/seniors. They shouldn't have gone away from that. I think someone in the organization just got a hard on for Bonga when they saw him play overseas and got visions of a young Giannis. Should have just drafted his brother.
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