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LBJ
Jun 19, 2018 6:58:47 GMT -8
Post by Laker8LA24 on Jun 19, 2018 6:58:47 GMT -8
clutchpoints.com/lebron-james-rumors-chris-paul-telling-people-doesnt-want-rockets-prefers-lakers/Chris Paul is telling his people that LeBron doesn't want to go to Houston and has his heart set on the Lakers, according to the article. It also states that George is really torn on staying in OKC while his family is trying to convince him to come to LA. I am nearly convinced they are both coming to LA. Once we have them in place, a trade for Kawhi can be broached, but I sure hope we keep Ingram.
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LBJ
Jun 19, 2018 7:41:52 GMT -8
Post by sclakersfan on Jun 19, 2018 7:41:52 GMT -8
clutchpoints.com/lebron-james-rumors-chris-paul-telling-people-doesnt-want-rockets-prefers-lakers/Chris Paul is telling his people that LeBron doesn't want to go to Houston and has his heart set on the Lakers, according to the article. It also states that George is really torn on staying in OKC while his family is trying to convince him to come to LA. I am nearly convinced they are both coming to LA. Once we have them in place, a trade for Kawhi can be broached, but I sure hope we keep Ingram. Why would Chris Paul be telling people that publicly? It really doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. This is something I was going to post on the other board, but would get a thousand "click bait" responses. I hope we keep B.I., too....but if San Antonio is going to trade Kawhi to us, it's gonna take B.I. +++ (unless other teams get really scared off by a refusal by Leonard to re-sign). I put the odds squarely at 50-50 that we get LBJ and PG. I don't have much hope at all we are able to trade for Kawhi (which may work out better in the long run). I mean, if he is not fully recovered, why give up B.I., Kuz, our 25, etc. The main thing we need to start to do Thursday night is try to find a way to ditch Deng, so we can match an offer for Randle. Then again, LBJ is an older, better PF than Randle, so....there's that. I honestly think James is strong enough to play the 5 in the NBA. I can't wait for the first domino to fall.....
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LBJ
Jun 19, 2018 7:57:33 GMT -8
Post by sclakersfan on Jun 19, 2018 7:57:33 GMT -8
Oh....and my personal belief about PG is that he is trying to make a gracious exit from OKC. I know they have great fans and were burned by Durant. But, I believe he is going to do what he set out to do....play for his hometown team -- and with an added bonus of possibly being able to play with one of the greatest players of all time. My gut is just telling me that PG is definitely coming to LA. If not, I won't lose sleep. I am not as infatuated with him as I once was. Also, as a complete off topic note.....players have GOT to start shaving those damned Harden beards. They are all starting to look like some kind of cult. Always covering their heads with their hoodies during introductions....I dunno, but those beards signify something. I just don't know what....God knows they can't be comfortable, they gather food, all kinds of negatives. To each his own, I suppose....but at least trim the damned things. There, I got that off my chest!
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LBJ
Jun 19, 2018 8:00:33 GMT -8
Post by Laker8LA24 on Jun 19, 2018 8:00:33 GMT -8
I keep hearing San Antonio likes Kuzma, so any deal should center around Kuz. If we can get away with trading Kuz and parts then I make the deal. If they ask for Ingram I tell them good luck and hang up the phone. We have the leverage here, not San Antonio.
Also, I keep hearing all these media reporters talking about how San Antonio is not going to help the Lakers create a superteam and they're going to look to trade him to the East. And then two seconds later they mention Boston or Philadelphia as trade destinations. But, guess what, if they trade Kawhi to Boston, then they have just created a superteam. (Horford, Tatum, Kyrie, Kawhi, and Hayward!) And if they trade him to Philly, then they have also created a superteam (Simmons, Embiid, and Kawhi , with cap room to bring aboard James!). If they really want to avoid creating a superteam then they need to trade him to a non-contender, and nobody is going to give them the assets they are looking for in that scenario. The Lakers can give them a damn good player that SA has coveted in Kuzma, some younger pieces (Bryant, Zubac, Hart) and draft picks. If that's not enough, then go ahead and hold on to him and watch him walk after the season.
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LBJ
Jun 19, 2018 8:04:37 GMT -8
Post by Laker8LA24 on Jun 19, 2018 8:04:37 GMT -8
clutchpoints.com/lebron-james-rumors-chris-paul-telling-people-doesnt-want-rockets-prefers-lakers/Chris Paul is telling his people that LeBron doesn't want to go to Houston and has his heart set on the Lakers, according to the article. It also states that George is really torn on staying in OKC while his family is trying to convince him to come to LA. I am nearly convinced they are both coming to LA. Once we have them in place, a trade for Kawhi can be broached, but I sure hope we keep Ingram. Why would Chris Paul be telling people that publicly? It really doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. This is something I was going to post on the other board, but would get a thousand "click bait" responses. I hope we keep B.I., too....but if San Antonio is going to trade Kawhi to us, it's gonna take B.I. +++ (unless other teams get really scared off by a refusal by Leonard to re-sign). I put the odds squarely at 50-50 that we get LBJ and PG. I don't have much hope at all we are able to trade for Kawhi (which may work out better in the long run). I mean, if he is not fully recovered, why give up B.I., Kuz, our 25, etc. The main thing we need to start to do Thursday night is try to find a way to ditch Deng, so we can match an offer for Randle. Then again, LBJ is an older, better PF than Randle, so....there's that. I honestly think James is strong enough to play the 5 in the NBA. I can't wait for the first domino to fall..... BTW, Chris Paul is telling his people in his camp, he is not saying this publicly. An inside source leaked this info. Take it with a grain of salt.
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LBJ
Jun 19, 2018 13:55:11 GMT -8
Post by title17 on Jun 19, 2018 13:55:11 GMT -8
Man, is it possible we land Lebron and no one else? That would be crazy! Who passes on a chance to play with this guy?! If CP3 signs, I wonder if we'd start hearing about a buyout of Melo in OKC. He supposedly doesn't want a buyout but I bet he considers if LA is able to make up the difference that he leaves on the table ($4M?). That's 3/4 of the banana boat right there. Let me be clear: I DO NOT WANT THIS. Just saying it because it could become a reality if CP3 comes here. There is no shortage of prized NBA free agents and trade chips that likely will land in new cities before the start of training camp, among them the Oklahoma City Thunder’s Paul George. It has been rumored many times that George would join LeBron James in Los Angeles should King James opt out of his contract with the Cleveland Cavaliers and sign with the Lakers. But although all signs have pointed toward George heading to LA, the Lakers actually don’t appear to be entirely convinced he would sign according to ESPN’s Stephen A Smith. Why? Because the Thunder are ready to offer George a max contract. “Folks are not so sure Paul George is coming to LA,” Smith said. “From what I’m being told, Sam Presti and the Oklahoma City Thunder are going to back up the Brinks truck for Paul George. They’re going to offer him the max. Because they’re going to offer him the max, combined with the fact that Russell Westbrook shows him a lot of love and they seem to get along pretty well and they’ve got a future together. Paul George is the sentimental type, and as a result it’s going to be hard for him to pull away from that and the relationship with Russell Westbrook.” George is from Greater Los Angeles, and signing with the Lakers would mean being closer to family. That, coupled with the fact his wife also would like to be in L.A, according to Smith, will create a roadblock when it comes to deciding between the Lakers and Thunder. It won’t be long until NBA free agency opens, so in due time we will know where George is headed. But in the meantime, we’re left to just speculate while he lines up his priorities. Read more at: nesn.com/2018/06/nba-rumors-why-lakers-arent-convinced-paul-george-will-sign-with-them/
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LBJ
Jun 19, 2018 15:31:49 GMT -8
Post by Laker8LA24 on Jun 19, 2018 15:31:49 GMT -8
Yeah, I'm not buying that George wouldn't sign with the Lakers if LeBron is coming. I don't care what Screamin' A Smith says, if we get LeBron and he calls George, and his family tugs on him to come home, he's going to choose L.A. He won't get as much money on his contract, but the endorsements will more than make up for it! Imagine LeBron and George teaming up in Los Angeles....every sponsor in the world will be lining up to endorse these two together. They will both make as much money as they want with endorsements.
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LBJ
Jun 19, 2018 15:47:03 GMT -8
Post by title17 on Jun 19, 2018 15:47:03 GMT -8
Yeah, I'm not buying that George wouldn't sign with the Lakers if LeBron is coming. I don't care what Screamin' A Smith says, if we get LeBron and he calls George, and his family tugs on him to come home, he's going to choose L.A. He won't get as much money on his contract, but the endorsements will more than make up for it! Imagine LeBron and George teaming up in Los Angeles....every sponsor in the world will be lining up to endorse these two together. They will both make as much money as they want with endorsements. Honestly, maybe it's not the worst thing. It gives us more leverage to get Kawhi. If we have cap space in 2019 and he wants to be a Laker, we could end up in the driver seat. If we're capped out, it's a different story.
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LBJ
Jun 19, 2018 15:59:27 GMT -8
Post by Laker8LA24 on Jun 19, 2018 15:59:27 GMT -8
Yeah, I'm not buying that George wouldn't sign with the Lakers if LeBron is coming. I don't care what Screamin' A Smith says, if we get LeBron and he calls George, and his family tugs on him to come home, he's going to choose L.A. He won't get as much money on his contract, but the endorsements will more than make up for it! Imagine LeBron and George teaming up in Los Angeles....every sponsor in the world will be lining up to endorse these two together. They will both make as much money as they want with endorsements. Honestly, maybe it's not the worst thing. It gives us more leverage to get Kawhi. If we have cap space in 2019 and he wants to be a Laker, we could end up in the driver seat. If we're capped out, it's a different story. Problem is LeBron won't come by himself. That's the double-edged sword.
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LBJ
Jun 19, 2018 16:08:50 GMT -8
Post by title17 on Jun 19, 2018 16:08:50 GMT -8
Honestly, maybe it's not the worst thing. It gives us more leverage to get Kawhi. If we have cap space in 2019 and he wants to be a Laker, we could end up in the driver seat. If we're capped out, it's a different story. Problem is LeBron won't come by himself. That's the double-edged sword. I dunno...CP3 seems to think he's coming no matter what. Plus, Randle was a BEAST vs the Cavs this year. It was a nice showcase.
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LBJ
Jun 20, 2018 8:17:39 GMT -8
Post by domino247 on Jun 20, 2018 8:17:39 GMT -8
Problem is LeBron won't come by himself. That's the double-edged sword. I dunno...CP3 seems to think he's coming no matter what. Plus, Randle was a BEAST vs the Cavs this year. It was a nice showcase. Lebron will come if George comes. Is there a way we can get Leonard,Lebron,&George and keep Randle?
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LBJ
Jun 20, 2018 9:34:05 GMT -8
Post by title17 on Jun 20, 2018 9:34:05 GMT -8
I dunno...CP3 seems to think he's coming no matter what. Plus, Randle was a BEAST vs the Cavs this year. It was a nice showcase. Lebron will come if George comes. Is there a way we can get Leonard,Lebron,&George and keep Randle? I don't think so...we'd probably have to dump young guys for future picks and not take back salary. Randle can take the qualifying offer but I think the cap hold is still too high to make this work. If I'm Pop, I tell the Lakers to sign and trade Randle as part of the Kawhi package (instead of including Deng). How about Mitch trading Dwight for Mozgov today? Hilarious.
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LBJ
Jun 20, 2018 10:08:03 GMT -8
Post by Laker8LA24 on Jun 20, 2018 10:08:03 GMT -8
Lebron will come if George comes. Is there a way we can get Leonard,Lebron,&George and keep Randle? I don't think so...we'd probably have to dump young guys for future picks and not take back salary. Randle can take the qualifying offer but I think the cap hold is still too high to make this work. If I'm Pop, I tell the Lakers to sign and trade Randle as part of the Kawhi package (instead of including Deng). How about Mitch trading Dwight for Mozgov today? Hilarious. We cannot make that work, because if we sign George and LeBron, then Deng has to be traded elsewhere to be able to retain Randle. Then, for the trade to SA to work, we need to match salaries and Randle will not be enough to make the money work. We would have to throw in someone else, and there is no one else but one of our young studs. You see the problem here? However we do it, we are going to lose Randle and at least one of Kuzma, Ingram, or Ball if we trade for Kawhi. (unless we do it at the trade deadline, since we will have filled our roster with a possible mid-level deal)
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LBJ
Jun 20, 2018 10:57:11 GMT -8
Post by title17 on Jun 20, 2018 10:57:11 GMT -8
I don't think so...we'd probably have to dump young guys for future picks and not take back salary. Randle can take the qualifying offer but I think the cap hold is still too high to make this work. If I'm Pop, I tell the Lakers to sign and trade Randle as part of the Kawhi package (instead of including Deng). How about Mitch trading Dwight for Mozgov today? Hilarious. We cannot make that work, because if we sign George and LeBron, then Deng has to be traded elsewhere to be able to retain Randle. Then, for the trade to SA to work, we need to match salaries and Randle will not be enough to make the money work. We would have to throw in someone else, and there is no one else but one of our young studs. You see the problem here? However we do it, we are going to lose Randle and at least one of Kuzma, Ingram, or Ball if we trade for Kawhi. (unless we do it at the trade deadline, since we will have filled our roster with a possible mid-level deal) Yes, I meant Randle and, say, Ingram to the Spurs...then you dump Deng with picks on another team. If that is what Pop wants in order to make Kawhi happen. Let's not forget that PG13 can also opt in to the last year of his deal and be traded, should OKC want something in return for him.
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LBJ
Jun 20, 2018 11:18:31 GMT -8
Post by Laker8LA24 on Jun 20, 2018 11:18:31 GMT -8
We cannot make that work, because if we sign George and LeBron, then Deng has to be traded elsewhere to be able to retain Randle. Then, for the trade to SA to work, we need to match salaries and Randle will not be enough to make the money work. We would have to throw in someone else, and there is no one else but one of our young studs. You see the problem here? However we do it, we are going to lose Randle and at least one of Kuzma, Ingram, or Ball if we trade for Kawhi. (unless we do it at the trade deadline, since we will have filled our roster with a possible mid-level deal) Yes, I meant Randle and, say, Ingram to the Spurs...then you dump Deng with picks on another team. If that is what Pop wants in order to make Kawhi happen. Let's not forget that PG13 can also opt in to the last year of his deal and be traded, should OKC want something in return for him. I didn't think of that option with George. There is also the improbable option of James and/or George coming for a small discount to leave some money to be able to retain Randle. Then the trade for Kawhi could go down and we would still have Randle. I would be OK with that I guess. Just don't want to lose three young studs- two I can swallow.
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